Podcasts: Let's talk about County Lines

  • By London Councils

The majority of the young people exploited by County Lines are London children. While boroughs and the Mayor have taken steps to better plan for and respond to knife crime and serious youth violence associated with, though not exclusively, drugs and gangs, less progress has been made in publicly highlighting the safeguarding needs of young people and the role that boroughs and their partners can play.

London Councils County Lines Summit gave greater voice to the need to protect young Londoners from criminal exploitation.

Listen to some of the sessions from the day.

Welcome and overview

Cllr Nickie Aiken, London Councils’ Executive Member for Schools and Children's Services

Safeguarding as everyone’s business

Dr Carlene Firmin MBE, Principal Research Fellow, University of Bedfordshire

  • The contextual approach to safeguarding
  • The limitations of traditional safeguarding responses
  • The policy framework that underpins this contextual approach


Rescue and Response – Boroughs’ response to County Lines exploitation

Karina Wane, Head of Community Protection, LB Brent and Geeta Subramaniam, LB Lewisham, Director of Public Protection and Safety

  • Context and meaning
  • Scale and profile in London
  • Borough case studies
  • Q&As


Public Polling Findings

Ian Neale, Research Director, YouGov and Marianne Moore, Director, Justice Studio

  • Objectives and methodology of the research
  • Brought together experts in modern slavery, county lines and communications 
  • Scale of the issues discovered in London 


Roundtable discussion 

Greg Hurst (chairing), Social Affairs Editor, The Times

Tim Champion, NPCC Silver Lead - Prevent Prepare Protect, National County Line Coordination Centre

Ian Neale, Research Director, YouGov

Karina Wane, Head of Community Protection, LB Brent 

Geeta Subramaniam, LB Lewisham, Director of Public Protection and Safety

Addressing the following:

  • Working with partners outside of London
  • Safeguarding as a shared responsibility across the community
  • Leading the conversation with communities
  • Highlighting the signs of exploitation
  • Use of modern slavery powers and the NRM
  • Approaches to sharing effective practice


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